Comments for The Austringer http://austringer.net/wp Wesley R. Elsberry's personal weblog, talking about falconry, science, antievolution, computation, and the broken body he lives in. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:16:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on No One Expects the Comparative Anatomist by Karen S. http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2012/01/09/no-one-expects-the-comparative-anatomist/comment-page-1/#comment-327218 Karen S. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:16:00 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2623#comment-327218 A nice <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/07/science/joy-reidenberg-anatomist-builds-a-following-on-inside-natures-giants.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss" rel="nofollow">article</a> about Joy Reidenberg is in the Feb 6 NY Times. A nice article about Joy Reidenberg is in the Feb 6 NY Times.

]]> Comment on Verizon FIOS Continues to Not Talk to Verizon FIOS by Karen S. http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2012/01/31/verizon-fios-continues-to-not-talk-to-verizon-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-327201 Karen S. Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:04:40 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2650#comment-327201 <i>"I happened to inquire about my previously-entered trouble tickets, and was told that they had been closed."</i> Obviously their trouble ticket system needs a trouble ticket as well. Oh well, at least you're getting some support now. “I happened to inquire about my previously-entered trouble tickets, and was told that they had been closed.”

Obviously their trouble ticket system needs a trouble ticket as well. Oh well, at least you’re getting some support now.

]]> Comment on Evolution Questions: Answered! by Steve Jeffries http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2010/07/01/evolution-questions-answered/comment-page-1/#comment-327196 Steve Jeffries Sun, 05 Feb 2012 18:57:44 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2097#comment-327196 Yes, and I guess all my points can be swept away and your bullwork is in tact. This is why the red states are in a battle with the blue states on this issue. and in the red states the elite are trying to force evolution, with no debate on I.D. The root of the matter is that the elite have been educated in schools without academic freedom on the issue. The true enemy of man is Satan, and he knew were to start, He also knew how to manipulate the core fear of man, his acountability to a Creator. This is why evolutionists have provided false evidence in the past, and why they fear I.D. They know it will affect peoples political leanings as well. After all the liberal desires the state to be the ultimate power on earth. while the conservative accknowledges mans rights that cannot be taken away because they are given to him by the Designer. This is why inside , the evolutionist loath the antievolutionist because they feal superior as humans, and they think the antievolutionist is self righteous. The worse thing on earth. They think we are judging and hating, I am hear to say I do not judge or hate and all of my friends are the same. You do not have to believe the lies of satan. We acknowledge our shortcommings. But the truth is still the truth.Watches do not make themselves. Yes, and I guess all my points can be swept away and your bullwork is in tact. This is why the red states are in a battle with the blue states on this issue. and in the red states the elite are trying to force evolution, with no debate on I.D. The root of the matter is that the elite have been educated in schools without academic freedom on the issue. The true enemy of man is Satan, and he knew were to start, He also knew how to manipulate the core fear of man, his acountability to a Creator. This is why evolutionists have provided false evidence in the past, and why they fear I.D. They know it will affect peoples political leanings as well. After all the liberal desires the state to be the ultimate power on earth. while the conservative accknowledges mans rights that cannot be taken away because they are given to him by the Designer. This is why inside , the evolutionist loath the antievolutionist because they feal superior as humans, and they think the antievolutionist is self righteous. The worse thing on earth. They think we are judging and hating, I am hear to say I do not judge or hate and all of my friends are the same. You do not have to believe the lies of satan. We acknowledge our shortcommings. But the truth is still the truth.Watches do not make themselves.

]]> Comment on Evolution Questions: Answered! by Wesley R. Elsberry http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2010/07/01/evolution-questions-answered/comment-page-1/#comment-327190 Wesley R. Elsberry Sun, 05 Feb 2012 03:59:05 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2097#comment-327190 Assuming what you need to prove is a logical fallacy, and cannot be considered common sense. Assuming what you need to prove is a logical fallacy, and cannot be considered common sense.

]]> Comment on Evolution Questions: Answered! by Steve Jeffries http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2010/07/01/evolution-questions-answered/comment-page-1/#comment-327187 Steve Jeffries Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:51:08 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2097#comment-327187 From your, talk design, web site. "•The fact that the laws of the universe are perfect for life is evidence for a Designer. The fact that the laws of the universe can't produce life is evidence for a Designer." "I find ambivalence in the 'intelligent design' literature. When proponents are talking about the formation of living creatures or parts of living creatures, the proponents basically say, "Look, this particular creature or part of a creature could not have been assembled naturally. Therefore, it must be the product of 'intelligent design'". [...] "On the other hand, there are other occasions when proponents of 'intelligent design' say, "Look at the fine-tuning of the universe, the speed of light, Plank's constant, the expansion rate of the universe, the gravitational constant, and on and on. [...] "Earlier, when we looked at natural capabilities and what was missing, we argued that there was design. The examples offered from the realm of cosmology and astronomy are used in one line of argumentation, and the examples from biology are used in a contradicting line of argumentation to reach the same conclusion. I find that a major inconsistency. In sort, it reminds me of, 'Heads, I win; tails, you lose.'" This is an example of just one argument that basically the casual reader will take into their belief system and lock away into there subconcious bullwork against any reasoned argument that may contradict evolution. Soo, this scientist,way above my meager knowledge base, states thet a designer is used by I.D. proponents to explain the precise nature of the universe to support life. He then state that the I.D. folks state that " laws of the universe can't produce life is evidence for a Designer" Now a perfect place for life to exist does NOT transfer to an ability to cause life to form complex structures. It mearly reveals that a perfect place for life to exist was designed. Common sense again. If I place the ingredience, proper temperature, and even all the letters to make up the recipe for a german chocolate cake complete with lit candles, 400 Billion years would not be long enough for them to get together on there own. The complexity of the ATP cycle is thousands of times more complex than the above german chocolate cake. So, it seems that the antievolutionists like myself, do NOT use contradictory logic as this scientist claims. Complex life forms designed with the ability to adapt CAN exclude self making german chocolate cakes regardless of how well designed the cakes living conditions. Now , if a simple guy like me can see this , I can only conclude that this guy and the guy that left this as proof of how stupid the folks on the I.D. side are, then maybee this disection of the matter may cause them to evaluate the possability that they have many of these hidden bullworks that cause them to not only reject good evidence, but also to overlook glaring shortcommings on their own side of the issue. From your, talk design, web site.
“•The fact that the laws of the universe are perfect for life is evidence for a Designer. The fact that the laws of the universe can’t produce life is evidence for a Designer.”
“I find ambivalence in the ‘intelligent design’ literature. When proponents are talking about the formation of living creatures or parts of living creatures, the proponents basically say, “Look, this particular creature or part of a creature could not have been assembled naturally. Therefore, it must be the product of ‘intelligent design’”.
[...]
“On the other hand, there are other occasions when proponents of ‘intelligent design’ say, “Look at the fine-tuning of the universe, the speed of light, Plank’s constant, the expansion rate of the universe, the gravitational constant, and on and on.
[...]
“Earlier, when we looked at natural capabilities and what was missing, we argued that there was design. The examples offered from the realm of cosmology and astronomy are used in one line of argumentation, and the examples from biology are used in a contradicting line of argumentation to reach the same conclusion. I find that a major inconsistency. In sort, it reminds me of, ‘Heads, I win; tails, you lose.’”
This is an example of just one argument that basically the casual reader will take into their belief system and lock away into there subconcious bullwork against any reasoned argument that may contradict evolution.
Soo, this scientist,way above my meager knowledge base, states thet a designer is used by I.D. proponents to explain the precise nature of the universe to support life. He then state that the I.D. folks state that ” laws of the universe can’t produce life is evidence for a Designer”
Now a perfect place for life to exist does NOT transfer to an ability to cause life to form complex structures. It mearly reveals that a perfect place for life to exist was designed. Common sense again. If I place the ingredience, proper temperature, and even all the letters to make up the recipe for a german chocolate cake complete with lit candles, 400 Billion years would not be long enough for them to get together on there own. The complexity of the ATP cycle is thousands of times more complex than the above german chocolate cake. So, it seems that the antievolutionists like myself, do NOT use contradictory logic as this scientist claims. Complex life forms designed with the ability to adapt CAN exclude self making german chocolate cakes regardless of how well designed the cakes living conditions. Now , if a simple guy like me can see this , I can only conclude that this guy and the guy that left this as proof of how stupid the folks on the I.D. side are, then maybee this disection of the matter may cause them to evaluate the possability that they have many of these hidden bullworks that cause them to not only reject good evidence, but also to overlook glaring shortcommings on their own side of the issue.

]]> Comment on Verizon FIOS Continues to Not Talk to Verizon FIOS by Douglas Theobald http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2012/01/31/verizon-fios-continues-to-not-talk-to-verizon-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-327170 Douglas Theobald Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:53:27 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2650#comment-327170 Got here via Verizon FIOS from Boston. Got here via Verizon FIOS from Boston.

]]> Comment on Verizon FIOS Continues to Not Talk to Verizon FIOS by Wesley R. Elsberry http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2012/01/31/verizon-fios-continues-to-not-talk-to-verizon-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-327169 Wesley R. Elsberry Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:11:52 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2650#comment-327169 Hooray! Tech support is now convinced that *they* have a problem. Hooray! Tech support is now convinced that *they* have a problem.

]]> Comment on Verizon FIOS Continues to Not Talk to Verizon FIOS by Frank J http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2012/01/31/verizon-fios-continues-to-not-talk-to-verizon-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-327168 Frank J Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:06:48 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2650#comment-327168 I was able to access it with Verizon FIOS, from just outside of Phila. PA. I was able to access it with Verizon FIOS, from just outside of Phila. PA.

]]> Comment on Evolution Questions: Answered! by Steve Jeffries http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2010/07/01/evolution-questions-answered/comment-page-1/#comment-327165 Steve Jeffries Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:42:03 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2097#comment-327165 First, I dont claim superior intellect nor knowledge, I did the same search for the Bombastic beetle you did, I didnt plagerize, I didnt think I was writting a term paper. The 6 month interval was because things come up in the normal course of Respiratory Therapists'life whose wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Second, I'm not trying to convert You or anyone else to a religiouse belief. If there were a God for real, wouldnt that be a scientific fact? A fact that maybee we could postulate about?Ben Stein points out in "Expelled" that in the U.S. only, is there a fear of real scientists postulating about evidence for inteligent design. It seems to me it is just common sense that design requires an intellegent designer. Even Richard Dawkins, one of the most vocal evolutionists living, in an interview with Mr. Stein, when asked about the new complexities being discovered in microbiology, hesitated and then appealed to intergalactic seeding of earth. In other words, common sense was backing him in a corner. 400 million years is not enough time for the magic. Again,The mathemeticians and microbiologists are kind of spoiling your religion of evolution with the facts. First, I dont claim superior intellect nor knowledge, I did the same search for the Bombastic beetle you did, I didnt plagerize, I didnt think I was writting a term paper. The 6 month interval was because things come up in the normal course of Respiratory Therapists’life whose wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Second, I’m not trying to convert You or anyone else to a religiouse belief. If there were a God for real, wouldnt that be a scientific fact? A fact that maybee we could postulate about?Ben Stein points out in “Expelled” that in the U.S. only, is there a fear of real scientists postulating about evidence for inteligent design. It seems to me it is just common sense that design requires an intellegent designer. Even Richard Dawkins, one of the most vocal evolutionists living, in an interview with Mr. Stein, when asked about the new complexities being discovered in microbiology, hesitated and then appealed to intergalactic seeding of earth. In other words, common sense was backing him in a corner. 400 million years is not enough time for the magic. Again,The mathemeticians and microbiologists are kind of spoiling your religion of evolution with the facts.

]]> Comment on Verizon FIOS Continues to Not Talk to Verizon FIOS by nickmatzke http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2012/01/31/verizon-fios-continues-to-not-talk-to-verizon-fios/comment-page-1/#comment-327164 nickmatzke Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:06:19 +0000 http://austringer.net/wp/?p=2650#comment-327164 works for me in berkeley works for me in berkeley

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