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	<title>Comments on: United Methodist Church in the News</title>
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		<title>By: JaWiHe</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2008/05/12/united-methodist-church-in-the-news/comment-page-1/#comment-198120</link>
		<dc:creator>JaWiHe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently work for a Methodist church doing audio/video. The other day I happened to be reading  the Skeptic or Skeptical Inquirer on vaccines during the services. The pastor asked to see what I was reading. He certainly had no problem with the publication or its topics, and most ministers in the Methodist Church I know wouldn&#039;t either. My grandfather is a retired Methodist minister, so I&#039;ve been raised around preachers my whole life. Methodism as I know it has never been anti-science. 

However, the autism thing seems to have been so bungled in the media I&#039;m not sure how people who don&#039;t read Skeptic, etc.. could possibly sort through it. Much like when getting my car fixed, I tend to do as the doctor says. I wonder if some doctors contribute to the confusion, or if this is a part of the anti-intellectual, anti-authority thing.

And regarding the homosexual language, our church has homosexual couples who attend regularly and visibly. I do know this isn&#039;t necessarily the case everywhere, and that is unfortunate. Many Methodist ministers have had their hearts/minds changed on this particular subject as they&#039;ve learned more and more about it. Hopefully we&#039;ll continue to move forward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently work for a Methodist church doing audio/video. The other day I happened to be reading  the Skeptic or Skeptical Inquirer on vaccines during the services. The pastor asked to see what I was reading. He certainly had no problem with the publication or its topics, and most ministers in the Methodist Church I know wouldn&#8217;t either. My grandfather is a retired Methodist minister, so I&#8217;ve been raised around preachers my whole life. Methodism as I know it has never been anti-science. </p>
<p>However, the autism thing seems to have been so bungled in the media I&#8217;m not sure how people who don&#8217;t read Skeptic, etc.. could possibly sort through it. Much like when getting my car fixed, I tend to do as the doctor says. I wonder if some doctors contribute to the confusion, or if this is a part of the anti-intellectual, anti-authority thing.</p>
<p>And regarding the homosexual language, our church has homosexual couples who attend regularly and visibly. I do know this isn&#8217;t necessarily the case everywhere, and that is unfortunate. Many Methodist ministers have had their hearts/minds changed on this particular subject as they&#8217;ve learned more and more about it. Hopefully we&#8217;ll continue to move forward.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, yes - here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/04/church_vs_science.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sad story&lt;/a&gt; from General Conference.  We also failed to get the offending language on homosexuality removed from the book of discipline.  But there were also encouraging developments.  

Are you attending UUMC?  I really liked that place, though it may be a bit conservative for my tastes now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, yes &#8211; here&#8217;s the <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/denialism/2008/04/church_vs_science.php" rel="nofollow">sad story</a> from General Conference.  We also failed to get the offending language on homosexuality removed from the book of discipline.  But there were also encouraging developments.  </p>
<p>Are you attending UUMC?  I really liked that place, though it may be a bit conservative for my tastes now.</p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard that there&#039;s a vestige of crackpottery concerning the antivaccine movement and the UMC, but I haven&#039;t looked into that in detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard that there&#8217;s a vestige of crackpottery concerning the antivaccine movement and the UMC, but I haven&#8217;t looked into that in detail.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob O'H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob O'H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll wait to see if this news appears at UD.  Hm, come to that I&#039;ll wait to see if this news appears at Pharyngula.

I&#039;ve never been a Methodist, but I was brought up near Epworth where the Wesleys grew up (the school trip to the rectory was rather boring, I&#039;m afraid), so I feel some sort of affinity to Methodism.  So it&#039;s great to hear that they&#039;ve stood up for sensible science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll wait to see if this news appears at UD.  Hm, come to that I&#8217;ll wait to see if this news appears at Pharyngula.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never been a Methodist, but I was brought up near Epworth where the Wesleys grew up (the school trip to the rectory was rather boring, I&#8217;m afraid), so I feel some sort of affinity to Methodism.  So it&#8217;s great to hear that they&#8217;ve stood up for sensible science.</p>
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