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	<title>Comments on: Cheri Yecke, Intelligent Design, and Scrubbing the Past</title>
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	<description>Wesley R. Elsberry&#039;s personal weblog, talking about falconry, science, antievolution, computation, and the broken body he lives in.</description>
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		<title>By: Don Thieme</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2007/06/26/cheri-yecke-intelligent-design-and-scrubbing-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-113076</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Thieme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, Dr. Cheri was trying to get the Minnesota Academic Standards Committee
to insert &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/sodomy/santorum/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Santorum&lt;/a&gt; into this document on teaching science? Yeck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, Dr. Cheri was trying to get the Minnesota Academic Standards Committee<br />
to insert <a href="http://www.rotten.com/library/sex/sodomy/santorum/" rel="nofollow">Santorum</a> into this document on teaching science? Yeck!</p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2007/06/26/cheri-yecke-intelligent-design-and-scrubbing-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-112904</link>
		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 19:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That&#039;s... interesting. I will certainly make it known if anything untoward happens, but so far ReputationDefenders has been unfailingly polite in their interactions. Besides, since I&#039;m now in Michigan, someone looking to make good on a death threat could take a wrong turn and end up at Ted Nugent&#039;s place.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That&#8217;s&#8230; interesting. I will certainly make it known if anything untoward happens, but so far ReputationDefenders has been unfailingly polite in their interactions. Besides, since I&#8217;m now in Michigan, someone looking to make good on a death threat could take a wrong turn and end up at Ted Nugent&#8217;s place.</p>
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		<title>By: triviality</title>
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		<dc:creator>triviality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems there&#039;s a dark side to some of these reputation defending companies: http://news.com.com/2100-1030_3-6194158.html?part=rss&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-5&amp;subj=news</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems there&#8217;s a dark side to some of these reputation defending companies: <a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1030_3-6194158.html?part=rss&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-5&amp;subj=news" rel="nofollow">http://news.com.com/2100-1030_3-6194158.html?part=rss&amp;tag=2547-1_3-0-5&amp;subj=news</a></p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2007/06/26/cheri-yecke-intelligent-design-and-scrubbing-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-112818</link>
		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Greg; those videos have the smoking gun. I&#039;m making a new post for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Greg; those videos have the smoking gun. I&#8217;m making a new post for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2007/06/26/cheri-yecke-intelligent-design-and-scrubbing-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-112801</link>
		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, I note in the comments that RBH says the Pioneer Press article makes the same claims as the Princeton Union-Eagle article. That would be stunning. However, looking at the link to the archived article, that this is what the Pioneer press had:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Education Commissioner Cheri Pierson Yecke will ask the committee to consider an amendment that Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., tried unsuccessfully to add to the federal No Child Left Behind law. It says that when controversial topics -- such as biological evolution -- come up in the classroom, the curriculum should help students understand other views as well.

One of the alternatives Santorum has written about is &quot;intelligent design,&quot; which says an organism&#039;s complexity is evidence of an otherworldly designer. The amendment passed the Senate and was included in a conference committee&#039;s report, but was struck from the final version of the law. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is not the same thing as the Union-Eagle article said. The PUE article has Yecke herself saying that IDC is one of the things that local districts may teach; the PP article has Yecke backing the rejected Santorum language (bad enough in itself), but not herself specifying IDC as one of the permitted &quot;alternate views&quot;. It is this difference between &quot;by her hand&quot; and &quot;on her watch&quot; that I think has caused Yecke to act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, I note in the comments that RBH says the Pioneer Press article makes the same claims as the Princeton Union-Eagle article. That would be stunning. However, looking at the link to the archived article, that this is what the Pioneer press had:</p>
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Education Commissioner Cheri Pierson Yecke will ask the committee to consider an amendment that Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., tried unsuccessfully to add to the federal No Child Left Behind law. It says that when controversial topics &#8212; such as biological evolution &#8212; come up in the classroom, the curriculum should help students understand other views as well.</p>
<p>One of the alternatives Santorum has written about is &#8220;intelligent design,&#8221; which says an organism&#8217;s complexity is evidence of an otherworldly designer. The amendment passed the Senate and was included in a conference committee&#8217;s report, but was struck from the final version of the law.
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<p>This is not the same thing as the Union-Eagle article said. The PUE article has Yecke herself saying that IDC is one of the things that local districts may teach; the PP article has Yecke backing the rejected Santorum language (bad enough in itself), but not herself specifying IDC as one of the permitted &#8220;alternate views&#8221;. It is this difference between &#8220;by her hand&#8221; and &#8220;on her watch&#8221; that I think has caused Yecke to act.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Laden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Laden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 05:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More info for you from a reader on my site:

http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=1024#comment-47876</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More info for you from a reader on my site:</p>
<p><a href="http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=1024#comment-47876" rel="nofollow">http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=1024#comment-47876</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg Laden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Laden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 23:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wikipedia is surprisingly up to date on this, by the way.  Its like they&#039;re watching us...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Yecke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wikipedia is surprisingly up to date on this, by the way.  Its like they&#8217;re watching us&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Yecke" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheri_Yecke</a></p>
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		<title>By: Inoculated Mind</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inoculated Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support you, Wes. Let them prove that it is false before you take it down, and then if you can find proof positive that it is true, put it all over the place and fellow bloggers will help spread it around!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support you, Wes. Let them prove that it is false before you take it down, and then if you can find proof positive that it is true, put it all over the place and fellow bloggers will help spread it around!</p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2007/06/26/cheri-yecke-intelligent-design-and-scrubbing-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-111942</link>
		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Links to other notice of this issue:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=232&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Florida Citizens for Science&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.tampabay.com/schools/2007/06/yecke-evolution.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Gradebook&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=1020&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Greg Laden&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/06/the_futility_of_being_cheri_ye.php rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pharyngula&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://realitybasedcommunity.net/archive/2007/06/reputation_defe.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reality Based Community&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://redstaterabble.blogspot.com/2007/06/rewriting-history.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Red State Rabble&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=787&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thread&#039;s from Henry&#039;s Web&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Links to other notice of this issue:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=232" rel="nofollow">Florida Citizens for Science</a></p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.tampabay.com/schools/2007/06/yecke-evolution.html" rel="nofollow">The Gradebook</a></p>
<p><a href="http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=1020" rel="nofollow">Greg Laden</a></p>
<p><a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/06/the_futility_of_being_cheri_ye.php rel="nofollow">Pharyngula</a></p>
<p><a href="http://realitybasedcommunity.net/archive/2007/06/reputation_defe.php" rel="nofollow">Reality Based Community</a></p>
<p><a href="http://redstaterabble.blogspot.com/2007/06/rewriting-history.html" rel="nofollow">Red State Rabble</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.energionpubs.com/wordpress/?p=787" rel="nofollow">Thread&#8217;s from Henry&#8217;s Web</a></p>
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		<title>By: Greg Laden</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2007/06/26/cheri-yecke-intelligent-design-and-scrubbing-the-past/comment-page-1/#comment-111929</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Laden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 20:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve put up two posts on this, the second of which includes the speech Yecke made at the time supplied to us by Judy Budreau, as well as a fuller representation of Kennedy&#039;s statement referred to in that speech of Yecke&#039;s

Keep up the good work!

http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=1021</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve put up two posts on this, the second of which includes the speech Yecke made at the time supplied to us by Judy Budreau, as well as a fuller representation of Kennedy&#8217;s statement referred to in that speech of Yecke&#8217;s</p>
<p>Keep up the good work!</p>
<p><a href="http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=1021" rel="nofollow">http://gregladen.com/wordpress/?p=1021</a></p>
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