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		<title>By: Ed Darrell</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2006/06/28/another-trial-everyone/comment-page-1/#comment-18464</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read the Bob Jones biology books.  The A-Beka books are shoddy and inadequate in biology.  They give short shrift to evolution, describing the theory inaccurately and incompletely, and ignoring the practical effects of evolution in genetics and population dynamics, and other places, throughout the book.  

It seems to me that the decision of the 6th Circuit in &lt;i&gt;Settle v. Dickson County School&lt;/i&gt; should apply in some form here -- there is no free speech or religious right to avoid doing the work assigned or required.  (http://laws.findlaw.com/6th/950141p.html)

Jehovah Witnesses may not be required to salute the flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance.  But if they apply to college, they may not claim a religious exemption from knowing the history of the United States.  Same principle in California:  If the kids want to go to UC, they need to meet the academic standards.  They are not required to evolve, ony to know what the science is.

I suspect that the English courses are similar:  It&#039;s not good enough that there is other material, or even more material, provided in the course they took; they didn&#039;t study the required stuff.  They have a free speech right to not study it, but they do not have a free speech right to claim a merit badge for work they didn&#039;t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the Bob Jones biology books.  The A-Beka books are shoddy and inadequate in biology.  They give short shrift to evolution, describing the theory inaccurately and incompletely, and ignoring the practical effects of evolution in genetics and population dynamics, and other places, throughout the book.  </p>
<p>It seems to me that the decision of the 6th Circuit in <i>Settle v. Dickson County School</i> should apply in some form here &#8212; there is no free speech or religious right to avoid doing the work assigned or required.  (<a href="http://laws.findlaw.com/6th/950141p.html" rel="nofollow">http://laws.findlaw.com/6th/950141p.html</a>)</p>
<p>Jehovah Witnesses may not be required to salute the flag and say the Pledge of Allegiance.  But if they apply to college, they may not claim a religious exemption from knowing the history of the United States.  Same principle in California:  If the kids want to go to UC, they need to meet the academic standards.  They are not required to evolve, ony to know what the science is.</p>
<p>I suspect that the English courses are similar:  It&#8217;s not good enough that there is other material, or even more material, provided in the course they took; they didn&#8217;t study the required stuff.  They have a free speech right to not study it, but they do not have a free speech right to claim a merit badge for work they didn&#8217;t do.</p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is from the ACSI complaint:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
47. The rejection of â€œChristianity and Morality in American Literatureâ€ as an
English course (July 28, 2005) was for four stated reasons: â€œthis course . . . does not
offer a non-biased approach to the subject matterâ€; â€œTextbook is not appropriateâ€;
â€œLacking necessary course informationâ€ (evidently that â€œ[o]utline is vague and lacks
detail,â€ and â€œ[t]here is not [sic] activities or assignments that tie to the supplemental
readingâ€); and â€œInsufficient academic/theoritical [sic] content.â€ The course was also
rejected as an elective, which routinely is granted if there is a rejection as an English
course The rejection was on office of the President letterhead, and the cover letter was 
signed by defendant Wilbur, with the cover e-mail saying that â€œUC has completed the
review of your schoolâ€™s 2004-05 a-g course list update.â€ Exhibit 7.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is from the ACSI complaint:</p>
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47. The rejection of â€œChristianity and Morality in American Literatureâ€ as an<br />
English course (July 28, 2005) was for four stated reasons: â€œthis course . . . does not<br />
offer a non-biased approach to the subject matterâ€; â€œTextbook is not appropriateâ€;<br />
â€œLacking necessary course informationâ€ (evidently that â€œ[o]utline is vague and lacks<br />
detail,â€ and â€œ[t]here is not [sic] activities or assignments that tie to the supplemental<br />
readingâ€); and â€œInsufficient academic/theoritical [sic] content.â€ The course was also<br />
rejected as an elective, which routinely is granted if there is a rejection as an English<br />
course The rejection was on office of the President letterhead, and the cover letter was<br />
signed by defendant Wilbur, with the cover e-mail saying that â€œUC has completed the<br />
review of your schoolâ€™s 2004-05 a-g course list update.â€ Exhibit 7.
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		<title>By: dogscratcher</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogscratcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was UC&#039;s justification for not accepting the lit classes?  The biology is easily empirically verified (or falsified), but what was it about the lit classes that made them unfit for admittance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was UC&#8217;s justification for not accepting the lit classes?  The biology is easily empirically verified (or falsified), but what was it about the lit classes that made them unfit for admittance?</p>
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