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	<title>Comments on: The Galvanic Response</title>
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	<description>Wesley R. Elsberry's personal weblog, talking about falconry, science, antievolution, computation, and the broken body he lives in.</description>
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		<title>By: Bryan Trim</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2005/12/22/the-galvanic-response/comment-page-1/#comment-15402</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Trim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 10:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I must say as a non Christian, I find your blog to be a source of incredible relief. I was beginning to think more and more people of faith were losing their minds. I am not a believer. However, I am not a derisive,ascerbic and bitter atheist like some I have come across. Part of what I do on my forums that I regularly post on (besides defending science and the Constitution) is set people straight when they go on Christian bashing rampages. I am going to put a link to your blog on both my easyjournal and on my FSM forum. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I must say as a non Christian, I find your blog to be a source of incredible relief. I was beginning to think more and more people of faith were losing their minds. I am not a believer. However, I am not a derisive,ascerbic and bitter atheist like some I have come across. Part of what I do on my forums that I regularly post on (besides defending science and the Constitution) is set people straight when they go on Christian bashing rampages. I am going to put a link to your blog on both my easyjournal and on my FSM forum. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2005/12/22/the-galvanic-response/comment-page-1/#comment-15397</link>
		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d think that sticking with the folks who aren&#039;t trying to slip a religious agenda into the public schools via a decades-long campaign of lies, deception, and mendacity would be a pretty good move, morals-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d think that sticking with the folks who aren&#8217;t trying to slip a religious agenda into the public schools via a decades-long campaign of lies, deception, and mendacity would be a pretty good move, morals-wise.</p>
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		<title>By: rhodeymark</title>
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		<dc:creator>rhodeymark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 17:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More than 10,000 US clergy have signed the following statement:&quot;
Yeah - and in John&#039;s Revelation 6 out of 7 churches receiving letters are facing unfavorable judgement. Jesus came for the flock - not the herd. Good luck with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More than 10,000 US clergy have signed the following statement:&#8221;<br />
Yeah &#8211; and in John&#8217;s Revelation 6 out of 7 churches receiving letters are facing unfavorable judgement. Jesus came for the flock &#8211; not the herd. Good luck with that.</p>
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		<title>By: gwangung</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2005/12/22/the-galvanic-response/comment-page-1/#comment-15004</link>
		<dc:creator>gwangung</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, the Staufenberger troll has been busy...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, the Staufenberger troll has been busy&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2005/12/22/the-galvanic-response/comment-page-1/#comment-14970</link>
		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2005 03:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a link to a specific thread on the KCFS site? I browsed a little, but did not see the objectionable stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a link to a specific thread on the KCFS site? I browsed a little, but did not see the objectionable stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Stauffenberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stauffenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of atheits, been over to Kansas Citizens for Science lately.

A little band of agressively insulting regualars has been smearing everyone who does not fall in to line with their view of science.

Most of them are not &quot;Kansas Citizens&quot; either, and the arguments are against religion and for atheism.

Thus KCFS is neither Kansan Citizens or For Science, but rather Komplaining Critics For Atheism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of atheits, been over to Kansas Citizens for Science lately.</p>
<p>A little band of agressively insulting regualars has been smearing everyone who does not fall in to line with their view of science.</p>
<p>Most of them are not &#8220;Kansas Citizens&#8221; either, and the arguments are against religion and for atheism.</p>
<p>Thus KCFS is neither Kansan Citizens or For Science, but rather Komplaining Critics For Atheism.</p>
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		<title>By: Treban</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2005/12/22/the-galvanic-response/comment-page-1/#comment-14750</link>
		<dc:creator>Treban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2005 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Christian and a &quot;believer&quot; in science (seems silly to call it that) I am glad to have found your space.  I am so tired of people, on all sides, challenging me because I am not an atheist but I &quot;believe&quot; in evolution.  

I am appalled on a regular basis by the lies people claiming to be followers of Christ will tell to achieve their ends.  I am appalled by many things that these folks would do but the lying is the hardest to stomach.  They cannot possibly justify it biblicaly but they seem to think it&#039;s ok as long as it furthers &quot;god&#039;s work.&quot;  It may their god but not mine.  The bible, no matter how one takes it, is absolutely clear, Truth is paramount.  

The lying is bad enough, but when they do it in the name of their god it makes anyone who believes in God look like a fool and a liar.  I am not a liar and only occasionaly a fool.  Yet I was embarrased and afraid, for years, to admit I was a Christian.  Not because I was ashamed of my God but because I was ashamed of what others did and claimed in his name.

In short, I was galvanized before this but I will be sharing this piece with a lot of my friends whom I think need to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Christian and a &#8220;believer&#8221; in science (seems silly to call it that) I am glad to have found your space.  I am so tired of people, on all sides, challenging me because I am not an atheist but I &#8220;believe&#8221; in evolution.  </p>
<p>I am appalled on a regular basis by the lies people claiming to be followers of Christ will tell to achieve their ends.  I am appalled by many things that these folks would do but the lying is the hardest to stomach.  They cannot possibly justify it biblicaly but they seem to think it&#8217;s ok as long as it furthers &#8220;god&#8217;s work.&#8221;  It may their god but not mine.  The bible, no matter how one takes it, is absolutely clear, Truth is paramount.  </p>
<p>The lying is bad enough, but when they do it in the name of their god it makes anyone who believes in God look like a fool and a liar.  I am not a liar and only occasionaly a fool.  Yet I was embarrased and afraid, for years, to admit I was a Christian.  Not because I was ashamed of my God but because I was ashamed of what others did and claimed in his name.</p>
<p>In short, I was galvanized before this but I will be sharing this piece with a lot of my friends whom I think need to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Queen of Swords</title>
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		<dc:creator>Queen of Swords</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 16:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this essay.  The volume of sane, rational Christians needs to start drowning out this madness.  It only serves to make our faith seem backwards and irrational.  I was particularly pleased that the letter above points out that God gave us minds so we could use them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this essay.  The volume of sane, rational Christians needs to start drowning out this madness.  It only serves to make our faith seem backwards and irrational.  I was particularly pleased that the letter above points out that God gave us minds so we could use them.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph O'Donnell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph O'Donnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would personally ignore Krauze and most of the telic thoughts crowd myself. For those who dislike critics bringing up the &quot;wedge strategy&quot; they are quick to hunt for anything they can use to cast doubt on their opponents (however founded in fact it is). 

As for your post, as a Christian and scientist myself, I find the antics of the DI, the dover school board and others like them reprehensible and am continually dismayed at the lack of challenge they attain from those of faith. It&#039;s time we throw out the charletans who are making Christian faith look like a backwards dead ideology that is irrelevant in the modern world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would personally ignore Krauze and most of the telic thoughts crowd myself. For those who dislike critics bringing up the &#8220;wedge strategy&#8221; they are quick to hunt for anything they can use to cast doubt on their opponents (however founded in fact it is). </p>
<p>As for your post, as a Christian and scientist myself, I find the antics of the DI, the dover school board and others like them reprehensible and am continually dismayed at the lack of challenge they attain from those of faith. It&#8217;s time we throw out the charletans who are making Christian faith look like a backwards dead ideology that is irrelevant in the modern world.</p>
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		<title>By: Austringer</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2005/12/22/the-galvanic-response/comment-page-1/#comment-14709</link>
		<dc:creator>Austringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krauze at &lt;a href=&quot;http://telicthoughts.com/wp-trackback.php?p=452&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Telic Thoughts&lt;/a&gt; seems to think that there is some disconnect between my post here and an earlier comment on Panda&#039;s Thumb, that the PT comment indicates a difference in my &lt;i&gt;motivation&lt;/i&gt; from what I&#039;ve indicated here. There isn&#039;t. My involvement in the issue stems from attending a YEC lecture in 1986 and being given a copy of Henry Morris&#039; &lt;i&gt;The Scientific Case for Creation&lt;/i&gt;. The level of mendacity sustained through that book served to galvanize me. The PT comment follows from that. My personal motivation has remained the same throughout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krauze at <a href="http://telicthoughts.com/wp-trackback.php?p=452" rel="nofollow">Telic Thoughts</a> seems to think that there is some disconnect between my post here and an earlier comment on Panda&#8217;s Thumb, that the PT comment indicates a difference in my <i>motivation</i> from what I&#8217;ve indicated here. There isn&#8217;t. My involvement in the issue stems from attending a YEC lecture in 1986 and being given a copy of Henry Morris&#8217; <i>The Scientific Case for Creation</i>. The level of mendacity sustained through that book served to galvanize me. The PT comment follows from that. My personal motivation has remained the same throughout.</p>
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