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	<title>Comments on: Darwinism In Crisis Again?</title>
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	<description>Wesley R. Elsberry&#039;s personal weblog, talking about falconry, science, antievolution, computation, and the broken body he lives in.</description>
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		<title>By: Fool</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2004/05/16/darwinism-in-crisis-again/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>Fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 15:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wesley, I don&#8217;t know that I agree that Darwinism is in crisis.  For my part, I think that many of Darwin&#8217;s findings/conclusions remain viable.

The primary reason I linked to the Roughgarden interview was for her assertion that:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The issue is whether scientists are really telling the truth, or whether they are playing to the market, which is what they are doing in the case of homosexuality. I know for a fact that some biologists are embarrassed if their animals turn out to be gay.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;fair statement particularly given your comment that &#8220;[s]exual selection as explicated by Darwin also concerned how the traits found in the males affected male-male interactions&#8221; and &#8220;It&#8217;s funny how Roughgarden positions herself as breaking new ground in discussing diversity of sexual habits. It becomes especially funny when one peruses both &lt;i&gt;Origin of Species&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Descent of Man&lt;/i&gt; and finds the many discussions of hermaphroditism, gender change, and parthenogenesis contained therein.&#8221;
Taking Roughgarden&#8217;s interview and your comments, what I find important in the Roughgarden interview is the lack of attention given to &#8220;hermaphroditism, gender change, and parthenogenesis contained therein&#8221; and &#8220;male-male interactions&#8221;.  It&#8217;s as if those aspects of Darwin&#8217;s writing have simply been swept under the rug in favor of sexual selection and survival of the fittest theories.

So, I cannot say that I disagree with any of your observations.  Whether Roughgarden is breaking new ground or not, I cannot say.  You are more qualified than I.  However, to the extent that she is reinvigorating forgotten Darwin observations, I think it is important.

Thanks for the comment.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wesley, I don&#8217;t know that I agree that Darwinism is in crisis.  For my part, I think that many of Darwin&#8217;s findings/conclusions remain viable.</p>
<p>The primary reason I linked to the Roughgarden interview was for her assertion that:</p>
<blockquote><p>The issue is whether scientists are really telling the truth, or whether they are playing to the market, which is what they are doing in the case of homosexuality. I know for a fact that some biologists are embarrassed if their animals turn out to be gay.</p>
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<p>fair statement particularly given your comment that &#8220;[s]exual selection as explicated by Darwin also concerned how the traits found in the males affected male-male interactions&#8221; and &#8220;It&#8217;s funny how Roughgarden positions herself as breaking new ground in discussing diversity of sexual habits. It becomes especially funny when one peruses both <i>Origin of Species</i> and <i>Descent of Man</i> and finds the many discussions of hermaphroditism, gender change, and parthenogenesis contained therein.&#8221;<br />
Taking Roughgarden&#8217;s interview and your comments, what I find important in the Roughgarden interview is the lack of attention given to &#8220;hermaphroditism, gender change, and parthenogenesis contained therein&#8221; and &#8220;male-male interactions&#8221;.  It&#8217;s as if those aspects of Darwin&#8217;s writing have simply been swept under the rug in favor of sexual selection and survival of the fittest theories.</p>
<p>So, I cannot say that I disagree with any of your observations.  Whether Roughgarden is breaking new ground or not, I cannot say.  You are more qualified than I.  However, to the extent that she is reinvigorating forgotten Darwin observations, I think it is important.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Pharyngula</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pharyngula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 01:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Roughgarden&#039;s book, Evolution&#039;s Rainbow&lt;/strong&gt;
I made a few harsh comments about an interview with Joan Roughgarden a while back. I&#039;m seeing some independent confirmation this morning. First, Wesley R. Elsberry also objects to the </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Roughgarden&#8217;s book, Evolution&#8217;s Rainbow</strong><br />
I made a few harsh comments about an interview with Joan Roughgarden a while back. I&#8217;m seeing some independent confirmation this morning. First, Wesley R. Elsberry also objects to the</p>
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		<title>By: Pharyngula</title>
		<link>http://austringer.net/wp/index.php/2004/05/16/darwinism-in-crisis-again/comment-page-1/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Pharyngula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2004 01:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] an Roughgarden a while back. I&#039;m seeing some independent confirmation this morning. First, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.austringer.net/wp/index.php?p=27&quot;&gt;Wesley R. Elsberry&lt;/a&gt; also objects to the false claim that Roughgarden&#039;s thesis is some kind of strong c [...]</description>
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